jim lair is a good moderator. he's very balanced, and i don't think he'll let them answer the questions they want. he's going to have to do that. at the same time, the challenge for president obama is not simply get bogged down in the details of his answer, but to then spin around and frame his answer as an attack, if you will, on governor romney and his lack of specifics and an agenda. you have to weave and bob at the same time. that's what a good debater does. >> let me bring in anne. is this a good strategy. you say you promised you would create 1 million new manufacturing jobs and hiring 100,000 math and science teachers and he talked about the jobs bill blokd by republicans and transportation bill blocked by republicans. is that the follow-up? how do you break this fever if it exists to a second term? >> i think chris is right. i think he has to do that to a certain extent. we saw the idea of running against congress work well in the past. congress has a lower approval rating than the president or mitt romney